This is called the HIVE AirDrop Exclusion List. (HIVE 에어드랍 제외 대상 목록이라고 합니다.)

  • This is called the HIVE AirDrop Exclusion List.

  • Don't forget your steem is treated the same.

steemit accounts


tron puppets


Accounts excluded who voted a minimum of two sockpuppets or proxied someone who voted a minimum of two and who didn't unvote before the hive announcement with more than 1k sp


  • 너희들 스팀도 동일하게 대우된다는 것을 잊지 말거라.

  • Don't forget your steem is treated the same.

  • 그리고 아래 이미지는 프록시토큰의 증인보팅 내역 입니다.

  • And the image below shows the witness statement of @proxy.token

  • 너희들의 이런 결정이 중앙화이고, 검열인거야.(Your decision is centralization and censorship.)

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Anyone who contributed to have 90% of the chain controlled by one server controlled by one entity for months is not welcome on this new chain.

Yup... totally agree, but someday, we gotta be open to the idea that Hive will hardfork into another chain, say
LIBERTY (FromAssholesWhalesStakeHolder)... and then folks will mass powerdown Hive and sell it to oblivion after the hardfork like what's going to happen to Steem. The precedent has been set. I look forward to doubling my HIVE when that happens.

This one raises one of the major concerns I was thinking when the Hive split off; they claimed that they were going to maintain the 'account' on the new servers.

Let's think about that for a moment.

You have an account at bank A, the managers at the bank have an argument with the CEO, so, they decide that they will create bank B across the street and will maintain the accounts and the values of them.

You as a user have an account at bank A and a duplicate at bank B; you can then sell off your accounts and double the funds.

Simply, if cryptos were treated as a type of security, there would be a group of people who would be going to jail for 10-20 years a piece for pulling this kind of stunt.

We should each (ESPECIALLY people who invested real money into the platform) be asking ourselves how we can maintain trust in a system that can be torn apart and redistributed because of those within the community with the most influence?

I couldnt have said it better my self. Well spoken 👏

wow. so. I have to say. your example doesn't work with physical money. doubling a list doesn't double funds... but if you use monopoly in the example, it would be perfect

investing is not zero risk. a sucessful investor has to stay updated

@therealmadnessj @bmanmcfly

Well, yes, copying physical money is illegal, but when you get into reserve banking, only about 10% of the money is physically printed, so, the effect would be the same, so, copying the account and promising to honor the value creates the same effect (never would happen in the real world).

But it does double the funds; or at least the coins at the rate they can be traded at.

Ex; when the split happens, you have a 10k account valued at 5k. That means you doubled the coins, and if the value remained (it shouldn't) you will have doubled the value.

I realize it's far from a perfect analog, but for real, if cryptocurrencies were treated as securities, Sun and all the witnesses would EACH be facing 10-20 years in pound you in the ass federal prison. Make no mistake about it.

Your counter goes to show that crypto currencies are effectively a ponzi scheme in that the value of the 'investment' depends on new investment dollars coming in.

what I meant is the 2nd bank owner would have to put actual money into it to make it work. which would be stupid since he would have to provide enough money for all of his client's withdrawals. otherwise I would see my bank account having $5000, try but fail to withdraw. because the actual money is not there. it is completely different because the money has to be there

crypto currencies are effectively a ponzi scheme

what. no. what do you think steem originally is, by design? the blockchain itself perfectly serves it's purpose. people who like consuming content get on it and optionally support authors they like. people who like creating content post their stuff here because it might pay off. it works. it is perfect.

people don't understand steem because they don't want to. all they want to see is a pile of numbers. there is a lot more to it than numbers. bitcoin is all numbers. that could be considered a ponzi scheme. anything that is nothing but numbers may fall into that category. not steem

but I guess it is a pointless argument since not a single fucking witness ever wanted to actually work on mass adoption, which is, free instant registrations. from this perspective, they're all retarded

ps: 10% of a lot of money is still a lot of money. actual physical money is not an idea, it is simply fiat money. utility tokens have nothing to do with it. utility tokens are basically companies pushing out a product, not actual fiat money

You cant, but same thing will happened if the company you invested for files for bankruptcy.

theyre both already super cheap but will all end up like golos, so will eops. All @dan larimer chains are scams now

Only telos is the right chain with real governance. Steem and EOS are still useful. hive is more centralized than steem because you saw how fast they moved like a vertically integrated centralized organism lol.

Vitalik and Tone Vays were right

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That's the issue with DPOS though, you can buy enough stake to control the chain.

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I'm very curious to know if you are currently in charge of all the decisions regarding the Hive fork and if this was your decision or if others were involved?

Edit: I'm referring to the exclusion of investors who voted for the sock puppet witnesses.

You are still controlled by a ninja mined stake, all witnesses will be decided by @freedom

That's a good point, I'm equally disgusted by the ninja-mined stake there. btrade and freedom, at least btrade is participating and trying to add value, Freedom, not so much.

Nothing like using a centralized solution to thwart an attempt at centralization, eh?

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LOL! Enjoy the centralized pump and dump network you voted for. Hive doesn't airdrop on the people who voted to attack it.

How ridiculous to call it : „ethnic cleansing“ when you just get rid of assholes 🙀

Bleibst Du etwas auch hier? Ich hoffe, Du kommst auch zu Hive!

Bin schon auf Hive aber gerade am Umstellen, power down etc .....meanwhile poste ich auf APPICS und das sieht man ja noch hier.

Yea, ^^^ that is a hilariously crappy piece of propaganda.

"H" Who is censoring posts?
"I" Is so stupid I don't even know where to start.
"V" Justin took aggressive actions, A TEMPORARY hold was put on the steemit inc. funds, in defense of everyone on this chain, till there was clarification. It absolutely justified.
"E" Folks from all over the world are over on Hive, including some Koreans. So..... That can objectively be labeled Absolute Bullshit.

At least in what the "E" stands for.

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I missed all of this... I was over posting via Dporn and surviving the Pandemic. I have not touched my voting setting in 2 years probably.

So what exactly happened with Hive?

I know Justin Sun bought Steemit and people didn't like the idea. Now what?

Do we get the tokens like in all major forks?

How does this affect the content creators?

How do you move to the new platform or just make a new account?

So what exactly happened with Hive?

Do we get the tokens like in all major forks?

Yep, equal to what you had on Steem when Hive launched.

How does this affect the content creators?

Post on Hive, we're all there. You can post on Steem too, but a lot of people aren't curating here anymore. It seems pointless to add content to a fucked up platform being run into the ground by the idiot who bought Stinc.

How do you move to the new platform or just make a new account?

Use if you like although, the Hive version of SteemPeak, is pretty nice.




the community didnt decide anything. The witnesses did. the community didn't vote for the exclusion of accounts.

The excluded account can make an appeal to the community on #Hive

Go cheer to your new Führer J. Sun who meanwhile controles something around 100-110Million STEEM, bought in a private deal from N. Scott.. You stay on STEEM, you'll never be free and you know it. Whatever, life is too short, I don't care.

Why was I included I proxied Dan and only had set my votes before that years ago

I think they have a way to appeal for that. Check their discord server or message any witness to help you with that. I'm sure they will understand your situation. At least I hope so. you can find a group of people and gather money ( hive coin ) and create a proposal. Once you create it, let me know about that and I will vote. Maybe more hive people will vote and those who didn't get the ardrop will get it.

How do you define "blockchain"? Is it just a centralized database controlled by one person or something more? How can you support someone who intends to run a blockchain like a centralized database? "Ethnic cleansing" is absolutely ridiculous. This isn't about race at all, it's about those who chose to attack Steem and made it clear by their actions they are not interested in what Hive represents (decentralization).

That said, I didn't agree with the criteria used or the subjective method for how it was determined. I understand the perspective of those who came up with it, but I would have preferred to just exclude the Steemit ninja-mined stake just as v0.22.2 did. You can read my witness post here for more details. Those who were excluded can submit a proposal to get their Hive tokens, as far as I understand.

Don't forget your steem is treated the same.

Maybe something is lost in translation here, but what do you mean by this? Do you mean in the future Hive might restrict your tokens? I would not support that as long as I'm a witness. This initial launch of Hive is about separating out those who actively attacked Steem by centralizing it.

Link to submit proposal because i rushed to action when this all first started and left a couple witnesses selected by mistake before i found out who was who, and boom i'm forked out of the airdrop. Let me know if/when they have a link for this.

I'm not sure what the overall solution will be, but I suggest keeping track of proposals here:

I hope something gets worked out.

Head over to the Discord and chat people up. I'm sure you'll find a solution.

Judging from the previous conversation, I believe that you are worth talking to.

You read lots of replies (including some on your own posts) or postings that explicitly say "korea" and/or "chinese". I don't think we need more evidence.

I am still waiting for the official airdrop and launch to confirm. Yet, such discriminate behavior contradicts the main value of Hive - decentralization.

Will write more after the fork. Good luck.

The criteria is clear,
1 vote for more than 2 fake witnesses and has more than 1000.SP

Do you not get the intent of this selection?

Unfortunately, the criteria is not clear. Take a look at my votes.
It will come back to you like a ninja mining stake.
Shady start once again.

Sorry to see that, Did you apply to the airdrop appeal?

Edit: I see that you will get your token and it was a mistake.

Hey Luke, as you can see on this post, @proxy.token has voted both side of them to buy time to talk each other. Many of Kr members wanted to protect this place. But initial launcher of Hive has treated us like a stranger or sock puppet of tron.

Every STEEM holder has their own voting right to 30 witenesses. That is a fundamental utility of STEEM. But you guys has excluded accounts that has voted to tron 2 or more. Do you think this is reasonable and decentralized way? How could you..

You guys already did violation of property right 2 times. HIVE is the most centralized and censorship-powered blockchain ever.I don't want to see the token listing of Permissioned blockchain on our Korean crypto-exchange.

Your property is not being touched. You owned STEEM, you still own your STEEM. What you don't own is HIVE, but you never owned it, so no one has touched your property.

Sorry, who's this?

doesn't matter

Word. Truth is truth regardless of who says it.


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We tried to save as many as we could

What the heck? There is no evidence of an effort to save the place and money at all from you.

You guys tends to polarise people Tron vs Old-witness. That's the real problem. You are a REAL plague idiot. We're never been to build walls to retain our community.

Don't kid yourself, I don't need any useless fork token at all. :D Enjoy your the most centralized world.

You tried playing kingpin. It wasn’t sustainable. I loathe to say it but proxy.token’s return was the worst powerplay I’ve ever seen.

Nevertheless I totally appreciate that PT switched to maintaining a no HF status and I absolutely do not support a free platform where one can not vote freely. In this whole situation, ever since 22.2, nothing has gone right. Nobody EVER made any positive moves, it was a never-ending disaster, made worse day after day.

OMG! Another leech is coming. A real disaster is Steem has lots of farmers, like you, til now.

Thank you for the compliments. Sadly enough, I actually do support the PT side in the airdrop debate. I also did express my respect for installing the status quo.

I guess not, I guess I’m merely a leech and a farmer apparently. Too bad about all the time I invested in steem, without actually posting.

Enjoy your day and your pedestal. See you!

True, man.

Ethnic Cleansing? That's a little harsh, maybe hostile to counterview is warranted.

The ethnic group of people who vote for fake witnesses to subvert community consensus.

Well, they did happen to share an ethnicity, but plenty from other ethnicities are also excluded from the airdrop due to their choice to support a centralized hostile takeover.

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But Hive block the air drop of the opposite thinker.

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What I'm talking about right now is not JS's steemit. Hive said to himself opposes centralization, is blocking airdrops to opposing thinkers.

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Who decided the air drop block? Few witnesses? That is centralization.

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Anyone who is running the 0.23.0 code.

Satoshi didn't give me 100 free BTC when he launched the chain. Thus, bitcoin is centralized.

Just like how is blocking the posts of people who have been hostile to them? It's not as if the posts are being removed from the blockchain. It's just a frontend.

If we are going to say something is wrong, let's not try to colour it slightly appealing when our 'favourites' do the same thing.

Hive excludes the airdrop from people that voted to attack Steem. An opposite thinker that votes to centralize a blockchain is certainly thinking oppositely towards reality.

What is the reason that I am excluded? I don't know what to say. Thank you.

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I'm unsure, as I believe the criteria was supposed to allow an airdrop to those that unvoted before the Hive announcement. Thankfully there is an avenue to appeal for the excluded airdrop using the Hive version of SPS.

Edit: It seems there was an error made in limited cases like yours, based on the timing of votes. This is going to be fixed, possibly without the necessity of an appeal. Stay tuned.

Thats BS. Our votes for Justin are not as important as your votes for you? It wasnt an attack. It was the only chance you fools had to go mainstream. Now we will do it without your itchy hive covered asses.

If you take a closer look, the accounts only voting for one of the sockpuppet witnesses were not excluded from the airdrop. Even though collectively these accounts were used to attack Steem, it is (in my opinion) valid for a Steem stakeholder to vote for one of these accounts as a vote for Justin/Tron as a Steem witness. There was enough consensus for this that the threshold was 2 or more attack accounts voted for.

Not the point. Hive has been planned behind the scenes long before JSun showed up. This was always the plan. To Make a fool out of any investor who joins the team in order to make steemit grow. The witnesses never cared about us.

I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Most witnesses initially wanted to keep Steem going and a hard fork like this was a last resort. There was no long-term behind the scenes planning for this. This Hive hard fork was only begun in earnest after Steem was attacked. Even then it wasn't guaranteed to happen until the more gullible of the Steem community decided to support the attack, prolonging a stalemate. Everyone looking for a win-win should consider this fork one, especially those that had their Steem balances excluded from Hive's airdrop.

Why do you care if HIVE isn't going to give you any free tokens? You still have your steem, let people do what they want with their stake

Why wouldn't they? Hive is a steem fork and the existence is going to crash steem. If the community was going to leave to a new chain and exclude everyone but you, you would probably be pretty annoyed about it as well.

let people do what they want with their stake

Says the person defending the exclusion of certain steemians stake.

Boo hoo, should have thought of that before siding with Justin!

Some people made mistakes voting for the wrong ppl in the confusion while trying to help and now will be possibly excluded smh (including me) I shoulda just sat on my hands and done nothing maybe? This is crazy.

They didnt side with Justin, try and keep up here. They voted for enpugh witnesses to keep a power balance and stop either side from hard forking and encouraged communication.

So then they can stick with steem! Looking for some scapegoat for a free lunch is lame, get over it and move on, we all have

So then they can stick with steem!

Again, they didnt side with justin.

Looking for some scapegoat for a free lunch is lame, get over it and move on, we all have

Thats a real strong statment coming from someone who is going to be stuffing his face with that free lunch.

Lol oh wow as if its a life-changing amount, look at me and my few extra digital cents, seriously?! You're just looking for a bone to pick!

Hey why dont you show me up and send your hive to @null instead of sitting here boasting about how you already gotten over other people not getting the same benefits that you are.

Yea, they just make a ransom to remove downvotes and shorter power down.

You mean the things Justin Sun wanted to do in the first place? They prevented Sun from hard forking the chain so that they could demand he do the things he wanted to do?

Fucking lol, again, as I asked the other guy. Please show the proof of this claim.

Proxy token posted a whole fucking post. Asking witnesses to comment on those topics. U claim to know whats going on but completely oblivious of everything that went on in last 2 weeks.

Thank you for posting a source, I actually found another one up in their blog. That said, I really don't see these as demands. More like figuring out who to vote for. You made it sound like they were threatening to vote for Sun if the demands weren't met. Or visa versa.

The only witness they were voting for that answered postively seems to be timcliff. In the post in their blog ausbitbank gave a flat no and they voted him. There were plenty of others who would give them what ever they wanted. I didn't see a comment from blocktrades or yabbapmatt or roelandp, but I doubt thats the kind of thing they would support.

These are real people you know, and unlike Sun they bought their steem at market value. They should be able to vote for witnesses that aline more to their values.

Thats what literally every other voter does.

That's horrible.

I see your mate's on the list, I guess he'll be moaning about that.

Sad not to see crystalieu or however you spell it there.

I was also wondering whether blockbrothers might be on there, they did kind of say they were happy to consider working with Sun.

Work, why would you want to do a thing like that!?