다운보팅 그룹들의 활동을 보면서,

in SteemCoinPan •  last year  (Edited)

ocdb, curagel 등이 중심이 되어 움직이고 있는 다운보팅 그룹이 있습니다.
그 그룹에서 ocdb를 운영하고 있는 acidyo는 약 30만 스파를 가지고 계정을 운영하고 있더군요.

acidyo에게 자동다운보팅을 걸었습니다. 그랬더니 반발을 합니다. 커뮤니티가 도입되고는 크로스 포스팅을 많이 하고 있습니다. 며칠 항의하더니 이제 저에게 다운보팅을 하고 있습니다. 크로스 포스팅을 이용한 어뷰징도 의심스럽습니다.

저에게 다음과 같은 댓글도 남겼습니다.

I was hoping we'd stop this bullshit but looking at how you even downvote posts that give rewards to other users it seems obvious you just have me on auto downvotes. Not to mention all the downvotes your community has been casting on innocent authors that just get votes from users that downvote you. This really crosses the line and does more damage to steem than your selfvoting ever did. So okay, bring it on, parasite.

자기는 마음대로 행동하고 어뷰징을 하면서 그 시스템에서 최대한 이익을 뽑아 내려 하는 듯 합니다.

curagel 을 운영하고 있는 pharesim 은 증인으로 활동중입니다. 자주 포스팅을 하지는 않지만 이 또한 자동다운보트로 올렸습니다.

이 그룹에 가담해서 상호 보팅해서 이익을 보는 계정도 있습니다. 대표적으로 abh12345 입니다. 이 계정데도 자동다운보트를 걸었습니다.

위의 그룹과 별개로 likwid도 있습니다. 그는 taskmaster4450은 물론이고 emrebeyler 와도 특별한 관계인 듯 합니다.포스팅에 모두 100% 보팅을 하는 눈요. 재미있는 것은 최근에 emrebeyler가 상위증인으로 올라왔다는 것입니다. 어떤 힘이 작용했는지 모르겠습니다.

자동다운보팅을 걸었더니 다운보팅 마나가 많이 빠졌습니다. 보충할 때까지 다운보팅을 일부 줄여나갈까 합니다. 여러분들이 많이 활동해주셨으면 합니다. 그동안 느낀 것인데 참고 있다고 해서 그들의 행동이 바뀌지 않는다는 것입니다. 그들의 문화가 그런것이니 그렇게 대응해야 할 듯합니다.

전체적으로 다운보팅 그룹을 운영하는 자들은 그들이 다운보팅의 이유로 삼고 있는 상호보팅 등등을 하고 있을 뿐만 아니라 시스템을 이용한 어뷰징도 자행하고 있는 것 같군요. 이런 식이라면 스팀의 시스템은 성공하기 어려운 듯 합니다.

이제는 ocdb와 curagel 까지 모두 끌고 들어와서 다운보팅을 하는 군요

명백한 보복다운보팅을 자행하고 있군요. 그동안 보복다운보팅을 하면 안된다고 하더니 자신들은 무자비하게 보복 다운보팅을 자행하고 있습니다. 우스운 짓입니다.

그리고 최근 들어 증인의 순서가 급격하게 바뀌는 것 같습니다. 왜 이런 일이 벌어지는지 잘 모르겠고 어떤 방향으로 움직이는지 모르겠습니다. 트론이 인수하고 나서 급격한 변화가 생기는 군요

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After reading the rest of the post I also find it super childish that you come to random conclusions of who could be who and downvoting based on guesses. If you think something is over-rewarded then downvote it and leave a comment stating so, but trying to turn this into a "war" and lashing out on random innocent users will only hurt your stake. There's nothing more disgusting than seeing a small korean account follow your judgements on what should get downvoted and when you look at his account he is posting original content but not receiving curation because you guys are too busy voting on yourself and other big stakeholders. It is a damn shame how you decide to use your stake when you could be doing so much good with it and on top of it lash out on people doing so because you don't get to farm a higher ROI than the rest of the platform.

On top of it all you keep saying we are profiting from downvoting, are you serious? You do realize the way downvotes work is that they make all other upvotes worth more for the whole platform. I could've easily not done any downvotes since the EIP at all but I decided that's what's best for Steem and it's rewards pool, had I done so I would continue earning post rewards like usual and just watched others get into wars, etc. This is not fun for me nor is it rewarding and I assume it's not fun for you either, so do the right thing, use your stake for curation instead of voting on your alt accounts and there won't be any downvotes.

  ·  last year (Edited)

Your excuse can't not cover the fact that you have the one of the highest ROI in Steemit. You got the witness beneficiary and the curating reward, even more the author's reward. You are the highest author reward in Steemit. You can't not deny that.

And the worse thing is you close your mouth about the worst abusing among downvote groups.

Among Korean accounts, it is natural they upvote each other because they speak Korean language. If you receive upvote from korean accounts, you need to write in Korean. So your words relating koreans' voting is a discrimination. I warn you never speak about that.

In this circumstances, you are misusing Steemit community and the worst abuser.

So you compare my ROI based on witness rewards and feel the need to self-vote alt accounts? I've worked hard for my account and whatever ROI I do get is not from vote-trading or self-voting which you mainly did the past 2 years and you can't deny that.

Did I close my mouth about removing downvotes just now on posts I felt were downvoted too much? Did I not state at least 5 times that I don't agree with them being downvoted too much. I just want to encourage curation instead of self-voting, that's the main thing that supports the EIP and a healthy platform. Please try to understand this part as it is the most important one.

I'm not discriminating, like I mentioned of course people curate posts they understand it is pretty obvious. It is also obvious which accounts are just self-voting and ignoring their userbase, so my example above is that accounts like these: https://steemit.com/@son10001 who seem to post original content don't get any curation from the bigger users because you are busy voting for yourselves or other bigger accounts vote-trading. So it is really sad to see these users follow your downvote commands when in reality they should be questioning what the fuck you are doing wrong in your community.

I've said my peace, done talking to you now. Get off your high horse and use curation in a way that supports Steem.

  ·  last year (Edited)

For three years I have tried to make good contents for steemit. I am writing column professionally. There are several ways to contribute for community. You are not the only one who work for better steem community. What is steemit for you? tool for making money? For me it is a tool gathering ideas and data daily basis.

Anyway you receive the highest ROI using this system. It can't not be denied.

For me it is a tool gathering ideas and data daily basis.

???

acidyo 이야기를 들어보니 ocdb는 @curangel 의 다운보트 트래일을 따라가고 있다고 하네요

  ·  last year (Edited)

그들은 다운보팅으로 자기들의 수익을 올리려는 스팀 최악의 해충들입니다. 다운보팅 마나가 왜 생겼는지 의심 스럽습니다. 이것은 그들을이 악용 염두 하고 만든것 같습니다. 소각로 운영도 한 예라고 보면 맞습니다. 이런걸 보면 힘을 모아야 하는게 맞습니다. 역량을 모아서 확실하게 죽야야 합니다. 분산이 되면 효과가 떨어질것 같습니다. 난 정말 그들이 스팀을 위하여 그러나도 생각하고 그들 입장에서도 생각을 해보려 노력 했는데 그들은 역시 누에가 아니라 송충이였습니다. 이왕 시작된거 힘을 모아서 그들이 다운 보팅을 포기하는 그 순간까지 끝가지 가기를 했으면 합니다.

curangel acidyo 에 집중해야 할 듯 합니다

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전쟁의 시작인가요? ㅠㅠ

transisto가 liwid를 관리하는것 같고, taskmaster4450의 보팅도 100%에서 50%로 줄였더군요...

Saying that I'm abusing by cross-posting often (90% goes to the authors I cross-post) while I'm not posting when I could be and receiving those autovotes instead makes you seem really, really ignorant.

As I mentioned I don't agree with downvoting posts down to 0 and have removed some of my downvotes from your posts. The main point with downvotes is to encourage stakeholders to curate instead of focusing too much stake on too few accounts or self-voting (on alt accounts).

벌레같은 놈들... 처단해야 됩니다.

Says the guy who couldn't maintain good curators in his art project.

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